Is A Long-Term Gold Bear Market Possible?

QUESTION: Hi Martin,

Thank you for publishing the Metals report. I was just wondering what would cause a bear market in gold , no one has really written or talked about what that  would mean.  Would it mean that we finally get to see behind the curtains as they try to turn the “ship” around….. ?  

Many thanks

J

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ANSWER: Taking the metals down short-term is simply a function of further liquidation and a rising dollar. Long-term, I do not see where a return of a bear market is possible. The gold promoters talk about debt and hyperinflation. But that fails to look at real history rather than the few examples of revolutionary governments. The common bond between the hyperinflation of Germany, Hungary, Zimbabwe, France, and colonial America (Continental Dollars) is not paper money – it is the collapse in confidence in government. That unfolds in placed in Germany and Zimbabwe when there IS NO DEBT because people will not buy their bonds. When there is a debt and the government is an established one with power, they first turn against the people and hunt taxes, twist the rule of law so they win, and that creates deflation. The final nail comes like it did in the city of Mainz – no bid for the debt.

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The assumption by the gold promoters has been they will just print more money to cover the debt. But honestly, that requires confidence to keep the game afoot. This is the common element. We will see the decline and fall in an OMG event and not progressive hyperinflation. France has already lost confidence of the people. Hollande has perhaps the lowest support number in all of history. But to save France, there will need to be another revolution for he is determined to stay where he is for the full term. France will crack and the EU may move to inflation BECAUSE they failed to establish a national debt market – one currency requires one debt and one government. As confidence in the EU is collapsing, now they are talking about issuing a national debt. But it is too late. They are exactly in the position of Germany and Zimbabwe compared to the USA which has a debt that is now supporting the world economy as reserves. There are important economic differences at stake here. This is not an issue of OPINION. There are serious structural differences that we will see as this unfolds.

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So I do not see gold entering a long-term bear market. We have downside to contend with, but this is how markets simply function. Rome kept raising taxes and twisting the law so people just walked away from their property. They could not pay the taxes and the population moved to the suburbs started farms and relied upon themselves returning to a Villa economy of self-sufficiency.This then was transformed into serfdom for protection from barbarian invasions. Taxes kill the economy and cause people to move just as I reported they are moving from North to South inside the USA.

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John Fitch 10 years ago Member's comment

There has definitely been manipulation by the powers at be since the inception of money, driven predominantly by greed. That definitely will not change, which is what drives my interest in many of the decentralized currencies. If those who control it will relinquish their control, then give no one control over it. That eliminates any temptation for manipulation that anyone may have, and additionally, breeds fairness for all.

Roland Murphy 10 years ago Member's comment

A decentralized currency? Maybe in the distant future, but sounds like a pipe-dream to me. I don't think the general population would trust that or get behind it. Logistics would slow the velocity of its adoption.

Moon Kil Woong 10 years ago Contributor's comment

The issue with paper gold is the same, those printing it are just making more of it despite the fact there isn't even enough gold to back all the funny paper they already made. I don't see an end to this and after China makes a gold paper market as well we will have even more government backed fake gold paper writers on the market trying to make money by writing gold paper and doing all sorts of things to prevent from ever paying out in gold because they don't have enough.

John Fitch 10 years ago Member's comment

Trust is an issue I have with commodity-backed money. The government can easily overprint because civilians have no insight into the quantity of the commodity available. In this case, that would be the available supply of gold. Not that a fiat system is much better. It actually makes corruption and manipulation even more possible. In a world where deception runs rampant, I believe the solution is a decentralized currency; one that does not require the trust of corrupt politicians.

Moon Kil Woong 10 years ago Contributor's comment

The creation of money and the ripping off of the public in doing so has been around since it was invented and doesn't seem to be going away simply because those who control it won't give it up. In the meantime they get the masses to bicker over the seizing of money through taxation and the allocation of the money seized keeping the wizard firmly behind the curtain as he does his obnoxious tricks.